{"id":105,"date":"2008-05-04T08:03:53","date_gmt":"2008-05-04T06:03:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/isabout.wordpress.com\/?p=105"},"modified":"2020-01-02T20:25:33","modified_gmt":"2020-01-02T20:25:33","slug":"depiction-of-women-in-rpgs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/2008\/05\/04\/depiction-of-women-in-rpgs\/","title":{"rendered":"Depiction of women in rpgs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>OK, so both Jukka and Sami <a title=\"Comments to my earlier post\" href=\"http:\/\/isabout.wordpress.com\/2008\/03\/23\/cultural-subtext-of-modern-fantasy-gaming\/#comment-266\">raised the question<\/a> earlier, so I feel compelled to outline it in some greater length. That question is, of course, whether rpg illustrations debase women and how come that&#8217;s so. The matter has been extensively dealt with by many writers, some of them women (which might certainly give them some more leverage in complaining, if being offended justifies an argument).<!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>Point the 1st: RPGs certainly do not flatter womanity<\/h3>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s very controversial that popular culture in general has been actively attacking women on the psychosocial level for quite a while now. One might even argue that this has been a constant of human civilization everywhere and always (perhaps such an argument would proceed on an evolutionary basis: elective pressure drives people to compete in exaggerating electibility signals, which are defined largely by societal consensus on a moment-to-moment basis), except that in the distant past we didn&#8217;t have media architecture for a concerted and global effort at breaking women to mould like we do today. It&#8217;s pretty much general knowledge that much of our service industry is predicated on a constant and concerted propaganda onslaught aimed at motivating people on the grounds of body security, sexual attractiveness and force of habit. Men are, of course, victims here as well insofar as they are often the means and motivation used against women.<\/p>\n<p>(Reading my first paragraph, better get something out of the way here, as otherwise I&#8217;ll be misinterpreted in the context of generic gender discussion: I&#8217;m not a feminist by any activist definition that presupposes moral imperative to compensation or comprehensive commitment to a counter-culture that interprets the world through the lens of gender theory. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, injustice is a a case-by-case phenomenon.)<\/p>\n<p>OK, so I might have described the cultural situation in pretty intense terms there, but the main point stands, especially for gaming culture: the concept of feminity is used in games in a hypersexualized manner that is far from flattering to womankind as whole.  Certainly there are more and less blatant cases (and whole swathes of gaming culture where these generalizations do not hold sway), but in general women are always depicted with what amounts to fetish clothing and big weapons, unless they&#8217;re outright dominated and in chains. Both types are, of course, always pretty and primped. Real nice that, as the visual basis of an entire cultural medium.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left;margin-right:1em;\" src=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/en\/0\/08\/Breaking_the_Ice_cover_small.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"317\" \/>A lot could be said at this point about depiction of males or women&#8217;s right to beauty, among other things. Certainly men are put through the ol&#8217; genderizer when imagined into fantasy ideals; truly women do not need to be depicted as <em>ugly losers<\/em> to be respectful. This is again one of those cases for the golden middle, and, more importantly, for fine reading of the subtext offered by given art. I&#8217;m not annoyed by women in chainmail bikini, as somebody intimated, but I <em>am<\/em> annoyed by imagery that glorifies aggression and artificial gender ideals for the sake of short-term success. More on this below, when we move on to conclusions.<\/p>\n<p>Incidentally, my favourite RPG in the context of respectable illustration, is <a title=\"Emily's website\" href=\"http:\/\/www.blackgreengames.com\/\">Breaking the Ice<\/a> by Emily Care Boss. It&#8217;s illustrated by some Emily&#8217;s friend who, if I remember correctly, works as an artist at a newspaper or something like that. (Can&#8217;t be bothered to find a copy of the game right now, and the internet doesn&#8217;t give hir name.) The illustrations are imaginative, funny, emotionally expressive, technically excellent, well tied into the game text, and it doesn&#8217;t certainly hurt that they depict normal people, not exotic power symbols. Those are much more like people I&#8217;d like to associate with than the blood-thirsty ballbreakers adventure rpgs provide in their illustrative oeuvre.<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"clear:both;\">Point the 2nd: RPG writers strive hard to be politically correct<\/h3>\n<p>During the &#8217;90s it became almost an industry standard in roleplaying to start referring to people with both masculine and feminine pronouns. A favourite arrangement was to have the GM be female and players male, perhaps, or have the characters be female and players male (or vice versa, I forget which way WW has it). This was usually accompanied by a short note about how the game doesn&#8217;t presuppose anything about player\/character gender.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"float:left;margin-right:1em;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rpgshop.com\/images\/RPG\/WWP08813.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" \/>Meanwhile, games have also been very gender-neutral lately when it comes to depicting fantasy worlds that might or might not be very gender-equal. There are two ways this phenomenon shows up: one is that the game world just happens to be a pseudo-medieval society that has intentionally been revamped to be just like 12th century England, except women can be knights too. The other is that while the game setting might include some gender-specific features, the game encourages players to ignore that stuff to preference, as it&#8217;s not really that important. And player characters are exceptions anyway.<\/p>\n<p>All this is, of course, pretty irrelevant fiddling to begin with, made all the more so when it&#8217;s really just an effort at aligning rpg entertainment with the rest of the entertainment world, which is rather conspiciously equal nowadays in the sense that entertainment depicts men and women with equal means and opportunity. Political correctness whitewashing, one might say, which of course leads to the question: what is one trying to whitewash? This is all pretty ridiculous when the companies most sensitive to gender equality issues in their writing and official GMing advice are also some of the ones that have been most keen in pandering to the lowest instincts of their target audience to gain impulse attention.<\/p>\n<h3>Subconclusion: Man, it&#8217;s all a big mindfuck<\/h3>\n<p>It probably doesn&#8217;t come as any big revelation to the reader if I hazard a guess that the way women an violence are depicted in fantasy roleplaying games has to do with riding the raging hormones, obliviousness and moral ignorance of the target demographic. It might even not worry most of you that image marketing tactics are used to sell stuff to men. Wouldn&#8217;t be the first time.<\/p>\n<p>What <em>is<\/em> worrisome here is that while that target demographic of fantasy adventure games today might be begged pretty accurately to be 14-year old American boys (this solely based on how blatant and cheesy this stuff is; as an adult male I kinda expect a little more sophistication from my image marketing), the whole nerd culture has been busy to fall to rank in support of this new norm of thought and conduct. This is reprehensible of the intellectual leadership of our generation, frankly &#8211; hailing a whole genre of entertainment sold with sordid cleavage shots as wholesome entertainment and our own chosen art form is pretty demeaning, I should think. I&#8217;d be ashamed to show these fetish pin-up tomes that are sold today as fantasy games to anybody who&#8217;s not used to the visual language of modern roleplaying games.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"float:left;margin-right:1em;\" src=\"http:\/\/home.flash.net\/~brenfrow\/dd1\/gdq1-7.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" \/>(Well, we might discuss whether that novelty aspect if anybody cares; the nature of the emerging nerd culture in the &#8217;70s is one interesting topic I&#8217;d like old-timers to write more about. To me it seems like roleplaying really started running with the exploitation when computer games started doing around the millennium; the old D&amp;D stuff from the &#8217;80s, to pick an era, is certainly sexualized, but it also belongs under my next point, which explains why it&#8217;s not as exploitative as one might think.)<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not primarily interested in the feelings of women in this matter, by the way. No, what I care about here is the general level of virtue in my hobby and in my own actions. And by &#8220;virtue&#8221; I mean those geek virtues, by the way: intellectual, scientific world-view finds nothing wrong in eroticism per se, but succumbing to marketing more suited to drunk rednecks at a Hooters bar is something else, again. Apparently this trend of marketing fantasy roleplaying games with nekkid women on the cover works, too, or they wouldn&#8217;t do it in such droves. What, do they think that the game actually is <em>about<\/em> those girls on the cover, or what? Exalted is actually a set of superhero conflict resolution rules, not a naughty comic book, and illustrating it like the latter is frankly just disillusioning. A good life is not made of that kind of superficiality, harnessing sexuality and violence for the purposes of marketing is short-sighted and uncaring when the benefits are ultimately paid by the buying public in the terms I listed in the first point: environmental sexualization, tense social relations, body issues and much of what we consider modern, urban social mores are greatly affected by this grand social experiment called image marketing. A social experiment that&#8217;s apparently become de rigueur in roleplaying games like they were vanity underwear or something.<\/p>\n<p>(Heh, my grumpiness-gauge just broke, I must be on a roll. Pretty interesting to see what I get up to at the end here..)<\/p>\n<h3>Point the 3rd: Sometimes games deal with gender<\/h3>\n<p>Now, my actual favourite point in this blog post is coming up. The above is just your run-of-the-mill moralizing and doesn&#8217;t really require any thought to realize, just a subscription to a feminist blog or two. But now I&#8217;m going to draw a distinction between legitimate use of T&amp;A and exploitation of cultural sexuality, which should be interesting. You see, usually when I see a roleplayer bitch about the portrayal of women in roleplaying games, the writer is too flustered by the morass of skinny legs drawn out by the hundreds in art studios over the decades to really differentiate between legitimate and illegitimate usage of the female body. &#8211; there&#8217;s little effort there at really looking for the reasons for what&#8217;s going on.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"float:left;margin-right:1em;\" src=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/en\/thumb\/5\/57\/CN1_Conan_the_Buccaneer.jpg\/250px-CN1_Conan_the_Buccaneer.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" \/>What I mean here is that all communication is a matter of context &#8211; and if your context happens to be one where nubile slave girls are de rigueur, then who are you to deprive the audience of them, again? Now, <a title=\"As if you needed a link\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Conan_the_Barbarian\">Conan<\/a> is known as being into slave girls and naked pirates, which kinda makes me expect a teeny bit of both in a good Conan product. So I&#8217;m quite happy that  Conan seems to be getting it on in this TSR adventure with both a giant mutant snake and a husky lady, both fine elements of a Conan story. The new <a title=\"Their site\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mongoosepublishing.com\/\">Mongoose<\/a> Conan products are annoyingly tame about this &#8211; makes a man wonder whether the nerdly players are playing Conan for to-hit bonuses instead of the damsels in distress, frankly, with all the man-to-man action going on. No pulp attitude at all in most of those covers.<\/p>\n<p>Say that I wanted to write a fantasy roleplaying game about Conan&#8230; actually, I pretty much outlined my angle on that in the <a title=\"The university rpg club at the Helsinki University\" href=\"http:\/\/www.alterego.fi\">Alter Ego<\/a> fanzine <a title=\"The fanzine of the same\" href=\"http:\/\/www.alterego.fi\/alterations\">Alterations<\/a> earlier this decade: Conan is about civility vs. barbarism and about male image, what it means to be male. Important points are macho relationships to women and dominating or killing men. If I were making a game about this, I&#8217;d totally pepper the text with those nubile slave girls &#8211; it&#8217;d help players get into the mood and perhaps inspire them to explore what it is that a barbarian warrior really wants for booty.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t see anything particularly wrong in a game about macho lifestyle, mind &#8211; such a game might well approach the topic in a critical light and still those slavegirls would be rather appropriate. Even if the game totally glorified masculine domination in a total <a title=\"Wikipedia sez\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gor\">Gor<\/a>-fest, well, if it finds an audience who can handle it, it&#8217;s no skin off my nose.<\/p>\n<h3>Conclusion: What is right and what is reprehensible in marketing<\/h3>\n<p>The point here is that the objectionable nature of cheesecake art in rpgs doesn&#8217;t, for me, rise out of some base objectionability of the female form &#8211; the issue is in what the production is trying to achieve. Exploitation of sexuality without context for short-term market boost is memetic terrorism on our culture, nothing less. The fact that roleplaying game companies increasingly follow computer gaming in accepting and glorifying narrow and artificial standards of beauty and mix sexuality into a mesh with violence and prude moral double standards makes this all the more damning.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"float:left;margin-right:1em;\" src=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/en\/5\/5d\/AzureBondsReprintCover.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It might be <em>bad<\/em> that a roleplaying game specifically caters to male issues, but that is a separate question! If a game is illustrated with nubile slave girls because it&#8217;s intended as male adult entertainment, the imagery can hardly be accused of exploitative image marketing. You might not like it and it might be in bad taste in polite society (pornography often is), but the image and word act in rather perfect harmony, thank you.<\/p>\n<p>This is also the distinction I&#8217;d like to make to Jukka and Sami, who inspired this post: the reason I&#8217;m not that annoyed by the depiction of women in most rpgs from the &#8217;80s and &#8217;90s is that they depict those women in rather different, more natural contexts, even when the images themselves are clearly of a titillating nature. I was actually quite smitten with Alias from <a title=\"Wikipedia sez\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Azure_Bonds\">Azure Bonds<\/a> when the game was more current, if I&#8217;m not mistaken: she&#8217;s very &#8217;80s with the messy hair-do and funky accountrements; the contemplative expression is actually deeper and more touching than the game itself, portraying her in a rather protagonistic manner. I don&#8217;t find the image in the pertinent fashion context to be displaying the breasts in that aggressive a manner, but perhaps that&#8217;s just indicative of the subjective aspect in looking at art; for all I know youngsters are just as inured to all this stuff I label exploitative, and thus pick up nuances and a range of meaning I&#8217;m blind to due to growing up in a slightly different aesthetic world.<\/p>\n<h3>Point the 4th: Bonus point about my own tastes<\/h3>\n<p>Speaking as a consumer of entertainment, as susceptible to image marketing as anybody else, here&#8217;s a hint to prospective game publishers: I like variety in my women. (And men, too.) Give me natural variety in your imagery and personalities your games portray. I&#8217;m pretty tired of these stock types pushed on me. I don&#8217;t even particularly like long-legged blondes, which makes me incompatible with your current stuff. Also, I&#8217;m kinda too smart to think that the new D&amp;D would be about sexually suggestive fetish posing, so putting that kind of art on all the game covers isn&#8217;t doing it for me.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"float:left;margin-right:1em;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wizards.com\/dnd\/images\/ph35_gallery\/PHB35_PG43_WEB.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" \/>A bit of <a title=\"A Google search for \" href=\"http:\/\/www.google.fi\/search?gbv=2&amp;hl=fi&amp;q=natural+girls&amp;btnG=Hae&amp;meta=\">googling<\/a> (he says demurely, it&#8217;s not like anybody would know this kind of thing out of hand) confirms my suspicion that there apparently are significant number of men who are kinda aggreeing with me on the matter &#8211; at least if the existence of specialty fetish (heh heh, man I&#8217;m funny) porn on any given subject matter might be taken as proof of the meme&#8217;s being vibrant in the Zeitgeist at a given moment. Regardless, as superficial as pornography might be, I know that I&#8217;d like less stereotyping in the visual and textual depiction of women in fantasy roleplaying games as well. Give me a fantasy adventure game with ordinary-looking people on the cover, and I&#8217;ll promise to check it out just for variety&#8217;s sake.<\/p>\n<p>(This one isn&#8217;t a cover image, but I wanted to use it anyway; Jukka picked it out for me here, and I remember seeing it in the D&amp;D player&#8217;s guide and thinking at the time that that&#8217;s a nice, neutral bit of fantasy art that kinda makes me nostalgic and motivates me to play this new D&amp;D, which seems to be about the ol&#8217; good adventuring lifestyle my characters enjoyed during my teenage years in the early &#8217;90s. Didn&#8217;t think about the female depiction angle then, but looking at this now, it&#8217;s actually a really nice picture in many ways. It captures the official line of D&amp;D as a brave, pure, mixed gender, boyish adventure fantasy rather perfectly, with no exploitative nudge-nudge about it at all. She doesn&#8217;t even look like she&#8217;d want to kill someone, anyone, as they tend to so often in D&amp;D art. I wonder who art directed that one.)<\/p>\n<h3>Point the 5th: OK, I need to stop already<\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"float:left;margin-right:1em;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.pen-paper.net\/images\/rpgdb\/apl0907.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"260\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Yes, I don&#8217;t have another point, I just wanted to showcase how rpgs are sold nowadays. I&#8217;m sure that the game about Vlad the &#8220;Impaler&#8221; is really just what the cover implies, and not at all a dry historical essay peppered with hit point totals for Vlad and his satanic minions. Or I would be if rpgs weren&#8217;t sold with completely irrelevant cheesecake these days.<\/p>\n<p>(And also affirmative, pulling an <a title=\"Possibly the most sexist rpg art ever made\" href=\"http:\/\/www.avalanchepress.com\/\">Avalanche Press<\/a> cover into a discussion of female depiction in rpgs is a cheap shot. When discussing stuff my co-hobbyists are inured to I need not only cheap shots, but bigger guns as well.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>OK, so both Jukka and Sami raised the question earlier, so I feel compelled to outline it in some greater length. That question is, of course, whether rpg illustrations debase women and how come that&#8217;s so. 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