{"id":394,"date":"2009-05-27T12:00:28","date_gmt":"2009-05-27T10:00:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/isabout.wordpress.com\/?p=394"},"modified":"2020-01-02T20:25:31","modified_gmt":"2020-01-02T20:25:31","slug":"a-peculiar-combat-system","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/2009\/05\/27\/a-peculiar-combat-system\/","title":{"rendered":"A Peculiar Combat System"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m supposed to concentrate on writing TSoY, but a short note about something else should break the pace nicely. The following came to me yesterday when I pondered the system aesthetics of fantasy adventure games: if I were to design a beginner-friendly fantasy adventure game, I would consider the d20-based D&amp;D mechanics and pool-based Tunnels &amp; Trolls mechanics both too dependent on special tools &#8211; strange dice shapes or too many dice, to wit. So I started thinking of how I&#8217;d create a traditional fantasy rules set using only a deck of playing cards.<!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>Deck of Wonders<\/h3>\n<p>Each combat round the players draw a hand of N cards from the deck. Each player arranges these cards into sets as he pleases and lays the sets face-down on the table. The permitted sets are as follows:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Defenses<\/strong> are a series of the same value (doubles, triples, etc.). A defense cancels attack cards valued equal or less to the defense, but at most as many as there are cards in the defense.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Attacks<\/strong> are straights (consecutive cards by value) of different lengths. Each attack card that passes defenses causes injury.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Maneuvers<\/strong> are flushes (same suit in all cards) of different sizes. Maneuvers are used for everything else apart from fighting &#8211; simply moving about on the fictional battlefield, rearranging the battlefield conditions, swashbucklery, activating some special conditions of the battle, escaping and so on. Presumably a larger maneuver is better &#8211; perhaps they&#8217;re compared to each other, or you get to do one thing per card or something like that.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The thing here is that while the other players can see how many sets you&#8217;re putting forth, they can&#8217;t know what type they are before they are revealed. A straight flush may be activated as either an attack or maneuver for an added bit of flexibility. Single cards can be activated as any of the above, they just are not very powerful. Most importantly, it is likely that you have to make choices as to what type of action you&#8217;re going to take in the combat: all sets you lay down limit your options as to the other sets you could make.<\/p>\n<p>When the players have laid down their cards, they start revealing them in turns. Timing has some significance, as attacks and maneuvers happen immediately, while defenses stick around to hamper others if and when an attack comes for you. I&#8217;ve yet to figure out how damage would be tracked and what the consequences of getting hit would be, but that&#8217;s details &#8211; the important thing is whether the probabilities of card play work to map out a nice fiction. Might be that defenses need to stick around even after being activated; it&#8217;s pretty difficult to get triples or four of a kind from a single deck, after all, even with jokers.<\/p>\n<h3>Elaboration<\/h3>\n<p>The basic system would be simple in this hypothetical beginner-friendly fantasy combat rpg. Perhaps each character gets five cards in battle, or perhaps it depends on bit on your competence: fighters get eight, normal adventurers five and civilians only three. Something like that. Further combat competence would come in the form of redraws: a really competent character could put down some sets and then fill his hand one or more times, thus potentially developing some even stronger sets.<\/p>\n<p>Special maneuvers could come in many forms in this card-based combat system: players could trade cards to represent characters cooperating, a character could have some permanent cards he always gets from the deck at the beginning of the battle, a character could be able to activate special maneuvers with the right sort of set (a fireball spell with a straight of three red cards, whatever) and so on. Pretty easy to hang elaboration on something like this.<\/p>\n<p>The actually interesting question to me is, however, whether a system like this would be doable as a more beginner-friendly alternative for something that requires you to either make a box set or require the players to buy funky dice separately. Everybody has playing cards, sure, but the above system might feel somewhat more abstract than the traditional roll-dice-to-hit thing is.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m supposed to concentrate on writing TSoY, but a short note about something else should break the pace nicely. The following came to me yesterday when I pondered the system aesthetics of fantasy adventure games: if I were to design a beginner-friendly fantasy adventure game, I would consider the d20-based D&amp;D mechanics and pool-based Tunnels [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,21,32],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-394","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fantasy-adventure","category-game-design","category-volume1"],"featured_image_src":null,"author_info":{"display_name":"Eero Tuovinen","author_link":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/author\/eerotuovinen\/"},"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/394","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=394"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/394\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=394"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=394"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.arkenstonepublishing.net\/isabout\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=394"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}